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Aptavani-8
Veda is in the form of knowledge (gnan) and the Knower (Vetta) is in the form of science (vignan). Gnan cannot procure results on its own (kriyakari), and science produces results (kriyakari)
Questioner: Even the Vedas were exhausted when it came to describing the one who is in the form of science (vignan swaroop; absolute knowledge form)!
Dadashri: Yes, they got tired! Because how is the Veda able to understand the Knower (Vetta)? The Knower can understand the Veda, but how could it be possible for the Veda to understand the Knower? What does Vetta mean? The Knower. He is the Knower-Seer (Gnata-Drashta). The word Vetta itself seems really small in appearance, does it not?
From Whom Do We Attain the Atma?
You can ask everything here, you can ask about the four Vedas (Hindu scripture) and you can also ask about the four Anuyogas (of Jain literature). Here, you can ask anything about Jainism, Vedanta or the Quran. That is because you can ask someone who has gone beyond the Veda!
Questioner: How can one go higher than the Vedas?
Dadashri: When the Light of Knowledge (Gnan Prakash) occurs, one can rise above the Vedas.
Questioner: So it is not something that is comprehended through the intellect (buddhigamya)?
Dadashri: No. It is not something which is understood through the intellect (buddhigamya). All the things that were understood through the intellect are found in the Vedas. And to go beyond intellectual understanding (buddhigamya): go to the Gnani; who has absolutely no intellect (buddhi). Go to a Gnani Purush, who is considered abuddha (state in which intellect is not utilized; intellect free), then you can attain the Atma from