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Aptavani-8
can you blame the Vedas? Of course, I can explain things to you, using examples and association (sangnya), but how much of the sangnya would the Veda do? The Vedas will not give you any answers to this. What the Vedas have not given, is the task for the Gnani Purush!
What people consider as chetan (the Self, Atma), is really all worldly; there is no spirituality in it. The Atma is the main thing and that which you consider, Atma; all that is also worldly (bhautik). There is not even a hair's worth of Atma in it, only that you mistakenly believe that. This is because the main Atma is not mechanical. And you believe the mechanical atma to be the main Atma. However, the mechanical atma is the worldly atma.
Dadashri: Do all these people have chetan (the Self) or are they without it?
Questioner: They have chetan.
Dadashri: How can you tell that they have chetan? Through what characteristics?
Questioner: By the movements of the body! It enters the body and it only makes it move.
Dadashri: Does it make it move? The body? The Atma does not do any of that. That, which makes the body move, is the mechanical atma. What you consider as Atma at the present time; is really the mechanical atma. No one, except for the Gnani, can know the real Atma. The real Atma lies on the other side of the mechanical atma, and it is that Atma which stays in this body. Besides, the real Atma is not in a position to carry out any kind of movement (halan-chalan); it is not capable of doing any kind of activity (kriya).
When a part of a lizard's tail is cut off, it still carries on moving. Does the tail have any soul (jiva) in it? Then why does it thrash around?
| SR No. | 030038 |
| Book Title | Aptavani Shreni 08 |
| Original Sutra Author | N/A |
| Author | Dada Bhagwan |
| Publisher | Dada Bhagwan Aradhana Trust |
| Publication Year | |
| Total Pages | 436 |
| Language | English |
| Classification | Book_English |
| File Size | 1 MB |