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Aptavani-4
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Dadashri: It was taped in the past life and now it is being played in this life.
Questioner: Is speech the sthool (tangible; overt) result of sookshma (subtle)?
Dadashri: Yes, the subtle turned into the overt.
Questioner: Where did the subtle (sookshma) originate in the first place?
Dadashri: Before that, the subtle (sookshma) again arises from the overt (sthool). When it is sthool, on account of attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh), once again a new subtle (sookshma) one arises. If for just one lifetime, you manage to remain vitarag (absence of attachment and abhorrence), the whole process would end. But people just go on sowing those seeds (through attachment-abhorrence).
Questioner: Wouldn't you call the language that you are speaking, a samadhi bhasha (language that gives inner stillness and peace)?
Dadashri: If you want to call it a samadhi bhasha, then you can call it a samadhi bhasha. If you want to call it syadvaad, then it is syadvaad. 'Our' speech will never give unhappiness to others; it renders happiness to all. 'We' do not 'own' this speech. Once the ego is completely gone, the 'record' is clean. My record (speech) became clear after Gnan manifested in me.
Questioner: When can one say that his speech is a
record?
Dadashri: When you do not notice any like or dislike (bhaav-abhaav) on the person's face, ownership of the speech has indeed been lost, and that is where your 'end' (liberation)
comes.