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Aptavani-4
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Dadashri: The audible “tape' keeps on playing, and simultaneously the 'tape' of subtle (inaudible) speech is also playing
Questioner: Can the Gnani Purush change one's parmanus (subatomic particles)? Or do they change because of his presence?
Dadashri: After you have put yogurt in the milk, the Gnani cannot do anything. If you had asked before you put in the yogurt i.e. charging karma), it would have been possible; however, nothing can be done about it after the fact The Gnani can annihilate all karma – that is all he is capable of. The Gnani can change some aspects of things. And that I can do for you.
Questioner: What do you mean when you say, “putting yogurt in milk”?
Dadashri: You have no choice but suffer the effects of karmas that have become solidified like ice. The Gnani can destroy karmas that are in the form of water and vapor. Nevertheless, his inner intent is always just naimitik (instrumental), and therefore he remains as the non-doer (akarta).
Questioner: What is moksha?
Dadashri: Moksha is liberation from all types of pain (dukh), and the attainment of eternal bliss. Moksha is the feeling of liberation.
Questioner: What causes bondage? Dadashri: Ignorance of the Self. Questioner: Is moksha a location or a state?
Dadashri: It is a state, but not this state that you are familiar with: it is a natural state.
Questioner: Does moksha mean independence?