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(FECHITA à any Svapnopamam vai sakalam) That is to say, the earth, water etc-the whole world-resemble a dream. As we see gold, diamonds, women, and such other objects in a dream and yet they are non-existent, in the same way, inspite of our seeing earth, water, etc, they are in fact non-existent-they resemble a dream. agfaseT ityésa Brahma. vidhi-r-anjasă-that is to say, this Brahma-vidhi deserves to be immediately known that this world is a dream. Through these Vedic statements, you know that the earth, the water, and other elements are nonexistent. But at the same time, the Vedic words, gent gaat, aut
a Prithvi dévată āpo dévatā] that the earth happens to be a deity, the water happens to be a deity, and so on, which indicate the power and influence of these elements, have produced a doubt in your mind regarding the existence of these elements.
But 0 Vyakta ? this doubt of yours is improper, because the Vedic words-this world is a dream-while thinking of the Soul,-mean to say that the relation to gold or to woman etc, is transitory. Relation to or contact with gold, wealth, sons and wives etc is un-steady, un-interesting and un-substantial, and its results are bitter, and therefore, getting rid of an attachment to them, people should resort to the efforts for Salvation, Thus, those Vedic statements are meant to give precepts that would add to the ideals of renunciation, but these statements do not suggest the denial of the existence of the five elements
On hearing the words of the Lord the fourth scholar Pandit Vyakta became free from his doubt regarding the five elements and he was convinced that the five elements do exist. On his douot being thus removed Pangit Vyakta with his five hundred disciples, accepted Dikşā from the Great Teacher.
End of Discussion with the Fourth Gañadhara.
Discussion with Sudharma Gaşadhara Coming to know that four upādhyāyas (teachers) had become initiated into asceticism, the fifth Pandit named Sudharına
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