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*Discussion with Roha Anagara.
In the same Samavasarana, an ascetic named Rona, sitting at a distance from Śramaņa Bhagavana Mahävīra, was thinking about philosophical questions. While thinking about the subject of Loka, a doubt arose in his mind. Getting up at once from his seat, he came to śramaga Bhagavāna Mahāvira, and having respectfully saluted the Venerable Lord, he asked:-'Bhagavan ! Is Loka first and then A-loka and is A-loka first and then Loka!
Bhagavāna:-Roha! Both the Loka and the A-loka can be said to be first in existence, and both of them can be said to be the last. Both are Sarsvata (eternal). There is no gradation like the first and the next.
Roha:-Bhagavan ! Is Jiva first and then the A-jiva or ls A-jiva first and then Jivan
___Bhagavana:-Rohal Jiva and A-jiva are eternal. There is no gradation like the first and the next.
Roha:-Bhagavan | ls Bhavasiddhika [ capable of attaining Liberation after limited bhavas (existences)] first and A-bhavasiddhika (incapable of Liberation even after endless bhavas) next or A-bhavasiddika first and Bhavasiddhika next ?
*तेणं कालेणं तेणं समएणं समणस्स भगवओ महावीरस्स अंतेवासी रोहे नामं अणगारे पगइमद्दए पगहमउए पगइबिणीए पगइपयणुकोहमाणमायालोभे मिउमदवसंपन्ने अल्लीणे मदए विणीए समणस्स भगवओ महावीरस्स मदरसामंते उर्बुजाणू अहोसिरे झाणकोठोबगए संजमेणं तवसा अप्पाणं भावेमाणं विहरइ, तए णं से रोहे नामं अणगारे जायसाढे जाव पज्जुवासमाणे एवं वदासीः-पुत्विं भंते ! कोए, पच्छा अलोए पुचि अलोए पच्छा लोए ? रोहा ! कोए य अलोए य पुट्विपेते पच्छापेते दोवि ए ए सासया भाषा, अणाणुपुव्वी एसा रोहा !। पुचि भंते ! जीवा पच्छा अजीवा, पुचि अजीवा पच्छा जीवा ? जहेव लाहे योए य तहेव जीपा य अजीवा य, एवं
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