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The Science of Karma
The Science of Karma
How Did The First Karma Arise? Questioner: According to the theory of karma, one binds karma and then suffers its consequence later. So in a sense, it is cause and effect: First comes the cause and then its effect. So according to your inference, how can you trace back to the original karma?
Dadashri: There is no beginning in that which has no beginning. It is like a beaded necklace. Where is the beginning of the earth's rotation and orbit?
Questioner: It has no beginning.
Dadashri: Therefore there is no beginning for this world. It is all round. It has no beginning. But there is liberation from this. Liberation is possible because of the presence of the Self. Everything is round, not square. If it were square, one could say that it started from one corner and ends at another. Where is there a corner in a round? The entire universe is round, but your intellect cannot perceive this. So tell your intellect to stand aside. The intellect cannot fathom this, but it can be understood through Gnan.
Dadashri: It has no beginning. Questioner: It has to have a beginning somewhere?
Dadashri: It started when the intellect began and it will end when the intellect ends. Otherwise it has no beginning.
Questioner: Who gave us this intellect?
Dadashri: Where is a giver in all this anyway? There is nobody above you. If someone were to be your giver, then he would be your superior and he would always remain your superior. There would be no such thing as liberation in the world. How can there be liberation when you have a superior over you?
Questioner: But what was the first karma? What was the original karma that gave rise to this body?
Dadashri: Nobody has given you this body. It is all a result of the coming together and interactions of the six eternal elements. In reality, you have not been given this body. You have assumed this body to be yours. This is your illusion. When this illusion goes away, there will be nothing there. It all came about because of the belief: I am Chandubhai.
Karma Of One Or Numerous Lives? Questioner: All these karma cannot give effect in just one lifetime. So does that mean that one has to suffer them over a period of many lifetimes? How can one attain liberation unless all his karma are finished?
Dadashri: One cannot even begin to think about liberation. When the karmas for a particular lifetime come to end, that is when the body departs. But by then new karmas have already been bound. So how can one talk about liberation? Old karmas (effects), from the previous life, do not follow you. You are binding
Which comes first, the egg or the chicken? Alas, just leave it alone and talk about something else or else you be doomed to the cycle of birth and death like the chickens and the egg. Anything that has no solution is all round. Don't you hear of someone talking in circles?
Questioner: Still the question keeps arising about where the original karma comes from before birth. In the cycle of eight million and four hundred thousand births and deaths, when and where did all this paap (demerit karma) and punya (merit karma) begin?