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[3] These Are Not Lord Mahavir's Pratikramans
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pratikramans a day.
Questioner: That is all bhaav-pratikraman (pratikraman of inner intent, at the causal level). It is not possible to do that many kriya-pratikraman (pratikraman through ritual, at the effect level), is it?
Dadashri: No, there can never be pratikraman in kriya (action, discharge; effect). For pratikraman, you have to have bhaav-pratikraman; pratikraman is an internal process. There is no action-oriented pratikraman. Kriya-pratikraman is a corpse, a corpse! In bhaav-pratikraman, time is not wasted in wrong places or unworthy matters and samayik is done. The benefit one gets of samayik is that the mind remains good.
Questioner: Is that nirjara (karmic discharge) or not? Dadashri: Nirjara is constantly occurring. Nirjara is going on for every living being but your inner intent (bhaav) that you want to do pratikraman is good. Because that inner intent is good, the karmic discharge (nirjara) will also be good. But pratikraman has to be the 'shoot-on-sight' kind.
All these people here (mahatmas) do fifty to a hundred pratikramans a day. Nothing can ever be achieved without pratikraman. And the pratikraman practiced elsewhere is dravya-pratikraman (it is being done in discharging effect); you need bhaav-pratikraman (pratikraman done through intent at the causal level, so effective results are obtained).
Questioner: So we need bhaav (inner intent) along with dravya (effect; discharge)?
Dadashri: Yes, but only dravya occurs. There is no bhaav in it. This is because it is very difficult for the human beings of the dushamkaal (the current era where there is lack of unity of mind-body-speech) to maintain the bhaav (purity in intent). Such bhaav arises only with the grace and blessings of a Gnani Purush. Otherwise it will not.
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Pratikraman
Questioner: Please explain what dravya-pratikraman is and what bhaav- pratikraman is.
Dadashri: Speak with inner intention, "This should not be so.' That is called bhaav-pratikraman. In dravya-pratikraman, you actually have to utter each and every word. However many words that are written for the ritual, you have to speak each word. That is dravya-pratikraman.
Did You Do the Real Pratikraman?
The Lord has said that if you understand the language of this pratikraman (Maagdhi language), then do pratikraman in this way. The Lord has not interfered in this. He further said that if one does not understand it, then explain pratikraman to him in the language he understands.
Questioner: According to Lord Mahavir, it is said that ultimately, even if you do samvatsari (annual) pratikraman, you will not have any problems.
Dadashri: No, He has not said anything like that. And this pratikraman was not there at all. Pratikraman during the time of Lord Mahavir was not like it is today. These pratikramans of today started after the Lord's departure.
Pratikraman should be there for sure. Furthermore, it should be in one's own language. Without alochana, pratikraman and pratyakhyan, there is no moksha for anyone.
If a person has learned eating by making loud belching sounds (ritual of reciting words without understanding pratikraman), does that mean that your hunger is satisfied?
Questioner: No, it will only be satisfied if we put something in our own stomach. (60) Dadashri: Why? We took a plate and we put food on it and we belched!