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[25] Understanding the Principles of Pratikraman
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Questioner: Should the one who is blamed also do pratikraman?
Dadashri: Yes, he too should do pratikraman by saying, 'What mistake did I commit that caused him to accuse me?' Nevertheless, the accuser is more at fault.
Questioner: Are new bhaavs (inner intents) not caused by becoming tanmayakar (one with the discharge)?
Dadashri: Yes, everything carries a danger. Everything gets washed off when you do pratikraman. Doing pratikraman if one is not Self-realized binds merit karma (punya). The one binding the karma is not the Self. Binding of merit (punya) or demerit (paap) karma is all of the non-Self. When you deal with them with equanimity (sambhav), it will decrease by that much.
After Gnan, You have to Continue 'Seeing'
Questioner: After Gnan, if I insult someone and then I feel I want to do it again, and I also do it, then I 'see' that 'Chandubhai' was the one who felt like doing it and that he did it again, and I 'see' 'Chandubhai' doing it again. What is that called? Is that considered 'charging' of karma?
Dadashri: Did You keep 'seeing' all that occurred? Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: Then that is gone. You, the Self, have nothing to do with it.
Questioner: When someone insults me, 'I' (the Self) feel that 'I' should not insult him back. But 'Chandubhai' says no, and that I should insult him and then he goes ahead and does it. But even then, from within, 'I' feel it was wrong. 'I' continue to 'see' all that but 'T' (the Self) am not able to stop 'Chandubhai.'
Dadashri: There is no problem with that. That is not Your responsibility, but it is the responsibility of 'Chandubhai.'
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That other man will scold 'Chandubhai' and tell him, 'You are worthless. Why do you keep talking in this manner?" Or he may even slap you - Chandubhai'; the guilty one has to take the beating. (446) Questioner: So does that mean that he 'charged' that
karma?
Pratikraman
Dadashri: No. That is why pratikraman has to be done. But You do not have to do the pratikraman, 'Chandubhai' has to do it. You (the Self) have to tell 'Chandubhai', 'Why did you do atikraman? Do pratikraman for it.'
Questioner: But suppose that 'Chandubhai' does not do pratikraman, then what?
Dadashri: Then it can be acceptable.
Questioner: So it got 'charged,' did it not?
Dadashri: No. It does not get 'charged.' Questioner: Pratikraman should be done.
Dadashri: All the files will be cleared if you do it. They got cleared with Gnan and got put away. Whatever clothes you wash, put them away. They will go for ironing automatically.
When Does Karma Get Charged?
Questioner: Does charging of karma take place after
Gnan?
Dadashri: How can charging take place? When does charging occur? Are you convinced that vyavasthit (scientific circumstantial evidences) is the doer?
Questioner: Yes.
Dadashri: And that 'Chandubhai' is not the doer - are you convinced of that?