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of the mind, the intellect, the chit and the ego), work? Potey the one who is the 'I am' moves away (from the non-Self complex); then the Self is separate from the antahkaran."
Dadashri: The antahkaran carries out the worldly activities on the one side and the Self does' 'it's' work on the other. The Gnani does not have dakho-dakhal (interference and hence it's effect thereof).
What is antahkaran? It is that from which arises the sense-intent of doer-ship' (karta bhaav) of 'I am the doer! The Gnani remains separate from the antahkaran. After attaining Gnan, Your real doer-ship does not remain, but your relative doer-ship does. That means the discharge doer-ship remains. But for You, there remains a slight dakhal; the effect of seemingly becoming Chandulal, whereas for the Gnani there is no dakhal. If 'one - potey' ('I am') moves away, then the Self is separate from the antahkaran. 'One (potey) has been a resident in this antahkaran for infinite life times, that 'one' now moves away.
Questioner: Who is this potey '? Please explain.
Dadashri: That verily is the 'I-ness' (potapanu). If 'we' tell you, 'let us go to the park' and you say, "No, I will not come. I do not like to go there. That is 'I-ness (potapanu) The Gnani Purush does not have this 'I-ness. He will go wherever you tell him to.
Questioner: Who exercises the 'I-ness'?
Dadashri: That 'one (potey)' only! Verily the 'one', the original one, the 'I am, is the one. He does not let go of the seat. The realm of his authority (satta) is gone but he does not let go of the seat. Therefore, You have to gradually make 'him' let go of it. Now 'his' authority and realm is gone, so there is no problem. It is not easy to let go of this seat. It is not easy to let go of the 'I-ness' (the potapanu). Do you understand the
T-ness' or not? There is a continuous feeling of I-ness' in everything that has become a discharge. It is nothing but an effect. The entire authority (realm) is gone. The root of 'I-ness' does not go away. It is not likely to go away suddenly. It will eventually do so gradually.
'We do not have any 'I-ness' (potapanu). So, You have to become like that. "His authority (realm) is gone even for You, after this Gnan, so sooner or later it will happen for You too, the 'I-ness' will go away. But You have to realize (janvoo) what You have become. The 'hoonpanu (the doer 1)': the 'I' with weight and emphasis which is the charging ego, its authority and its realm (satta) are gone. The belief of I am Chandulal' is gone, however in discharge, you continue to have the gnan (knowledge) experience (anubhav) and conduct (charitra) of "Chandulal'. When the realm and the authority is gone; it is all over. But potey, the 'I am remains.
I, the lawyer, Mangaddas Let me explain this potey' (the 'I am) to you. One lawyer came to see me. I asked him, 'What's your name?' He replied, "Mangaddas.' I asked him, 'What do you do for a living?' He replied, 'I am a lawyer. 'I asked him, 'Do you say 'I am a lawyer'?' He replied, 'Of course! I am a lawyer.' asked, 'So then who is this Mangaddas?' He replied, T. Then I asked him "Then who is the lawyer?' he said, 'T. So, I told him 'So then you have to say, 'T, the lawyer, Mangaddas', right?'
This is what a person at someone's door was saying. A man knocked on someone's door at night, when everyone was asleep. The owner asked 'Who is knocking on the door this late at night?' The voice replied, 'T. The owner asked T who? Identify yourself otherwise I will not open the door.' So the reply came, 'I am the bavo (ascetic). The man asked, 'But tell me which bavo?' So the man at the door said, 'I, bavo Mangaddas.' Then the owner opened the door.