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he will say, 'It was not to my liking.' Is that not also a kind of moha? Leaving some food behind on the plate is moha and eating more is also a moha.
And the one who does not have any attachment-abhorrence (raag-dwesh) has no effect illusion (moha) in him; he will take whatever comes in front of him. He will not have any other problems in the process; he has no moha of any kind.
But discharge moha (charitra moha) has no value in itself. One can have a ton of moha, but because it is discharge moha; it has no value at all. Charitra moha is the moha that remains after the illusion of 'I am Chandulal' (darshan moha) goes away. It has no value. For the one whose darshan moha has not gone, even if he is a great ascetic/renouncer (tyagi), and if he were to ask for even a little extra helping of vegetables, then that moha has a tremendous load in terms of karmic liability. Hey! Here we (mahatmas) ask for extra vegetables every day but we do not get anything (charging new karma), whereas the ascetic asks only once and he gets so much liability of karma?
The answer is, 'Yes, in just one day one can bind a tremendous liability of karma' because that is real moha, specifically moha that charges karma and, therefore, the entire reward of his (karmic) earnings from renouncing is lost. But no matter how much moha the mahatmas 'have, there is no loss for them at all. One has to understand just this. Discharge moha (charitra moha) is a very subtle thing.
Eat to sustain the body. People will not call that moha, but when you take extra items, like all kinds of chutneys and pickles, mango pulp, etc., people will say that you have moha in you. You know what? They tell me that too, do they not? When I eat mango chutney or pickle, they even tell me. But that is conduct-discharge moha (vartan moha). We are dealing with it (doing a nikaal). It will not arise if you are done with it (nikaal). Whatever was of the past life is discharging and leaving
Questioner: People will not accept that.
Dadashri: People do not understand that; they look at it as being a moha. Lord Mahavir used to focus only on the illusion (moha). Wearing clothes is moha and to walk around naked is also moha. They are both simply moha, but it is discharge moha. Before Gnan, one moved about in the wrong direction believing, 'I am Chandulal,' and now he has turned around. His total vision (drashti) has improved. His darshan moha is gone. Therefore, new moha will not accumulate within. But there is still the old illusion (moha) within; its result will unfold in this life, and he has no choice but to endure it.
Questioner: So did the charge moha (drashti moha, darshan moha) give rise to the discharge moha (charitra moha)?
Dadashri: When drashti moha and charitra moha come together, it is called attachment arising due to illusion arising from the ignorance of the real Self (agnan moha). The whole world is trapped because of this moha, is it not? It is said that if one of the two were to go to sleep,' then the problem of the other can be solved. If darshan moha (drashti moha, charge moha) goes away, it is more than enough. Then charitra moha is not worth even a dime.
Questioner: In the traditional step-by-step path to Selfrealization (Kramic path), do they not remove the charitra moha through their ego by taking some vows or such?
Dadashri: Charge moha (drashti moha) has to go; only then can the remaining moha be considered discharge moha (charitra moha). When darshan moha is destroyed, only then does the moha become divided. In this, one part of the moha, specifically darshan moha, is done away with and the other remaining part is charitra moha. When one attains Self