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deceit hurts others. Now if you use deceit in order to go to satsang (company of the Self-realized beings, the company of the Self), it is not considered deceit because otherwise kusang is in abundance all around. That which takes one away from the eternal Self is all kusang.
Questioner: Does deceit arise as a result of meeting someone who is instrumental (a nimit) in the expression of deceit?
Dadashri: No, it is not like that.
Questioner: Does the nimit (a living or non-living instrumental evidence in unfolding karma effect) come for the purpose of binding karma (bhaav-karma)?
Dadashri: No, there is not just deceit only. Anger-pridedeceit-greed, all four join in. That causes the veil, the blind vision, the illusion (darshan moha). Then all the work is done based on this vision. 'We' destroy that vision; we destroy your darshan moha when 'we' give you Gnan. Such illusionary vision is destroyed only after many demerit karmas (paap) are destroyed. Once that illusionary vision (darshan) is destroyed, Your work is accomplished.
This worldly life remains because of anger-pride-deceitgreed, not because of vishay* that one is engaged in. The root cause of the worldly life is anger-pride-deceit-greed. *(Vishay - any worldly thing or subject one finds pleasure in. It can also mean sex.)
will work after he attains the right vision. Until the right vision (samyak darshan) is attained, there is no saiyam (absence of raag-dwesh) either. The saiyam referred to by the Vitarag Lords can never be found anywhere. The saiyam that people generally refer to is ego-based control of passions.
Questioner: Is that conduct saraag charitra (conduct with attachment)?
Dadashri: Saraag charitra is a very elevated thing. Gnanis are considered to be in saraag charitra. (Despite being a vitarag, Dadashri had subtle attachment of Jagat Kalyan, salvation of the world.) After the Gnanis become completely detached (vitarag), they are said to be in the state of complete non-attachment (vitarag charitra).
What is considered control (saiyam)? Control of gratification through senses is renunciation (tyaag). The Lord has called control of the kashays (anger, pride, deceit and greed) as true saiyam. One attains liberation because of saiyam of kashays; karma bondage is due to lack of saiyam. Sexual and other passions (vishays) may be present even when one attains the right vision (samkit). Yes, these vishays will not allow one to progress to higher spiritual stages (gunasthanak). Nevertheless, they have not been objectionable because one will not lose the right vision due to their presence. When the Illusion that Deludes (Dekhat
Bhooli) Ends, Suffering Ends What does Akram Vignan say?
Questioner: When anger-pride-deceit-greed occur and at that time, if one remains in the awareness (jagruti) of the Self, then he will not bind any new causes, will he?
Dadashri: How can awareness (jagruti) prevail? He is blind himself and he has blinded others too. Until the light manifests, until he attains the right belief of 'I am pure Soul' (samkit), he is not considered to have awareness, is he? Things
There is nothing wrong in looking at the Alphanso mangoes. There is nothing wrong even in smelling their aroma, but do not think of enjoying them. Even Gnanis look and smell the mangoes. The sexual pleasures (vishays) that are being enjoyed are vyavasthir; it is only vyavasthit. What is the meaning of harboring useless attraction to that which is external and not