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Questioner: What is just with reference to such manipulative tantrum-tragu? What if both the parties involved are doing tragu?
Dadashri: 'We would not get involved in that. When it comes to a tragu, 'we' stay away.
Questioner: No, but if a question about making a judgement arises, then what should one do?
Dadashri: It is possible that even the one passing a judgement risks bypassing the subhuman life. If someone ever did a tragu in front of him, he would realize that it is a mistake to do so, he will never repeat this mistake.
Do you know what one lady who used to do tragu, say to me? She told me that of all the people she had come across with whom she had her way, I was the only one with whom she had not been able to have her own way. I told her that I know people like you in and out, through and through.
Questioner: One has to learn to deal with a person doing tragu with this technique of remaining unaffected. That is an art too!
Dadashri: That 'we' know! But it is still not worth getting involved. 'We get involved only when it is unavoidable. Otherwise, it is not worth initiating. 'We have seen tragas in other places too. A husband would drag his wife by her hair and bring her to me looking for justice. The wife and the husband, both were doing tragas, both were manipulative. Therefore, 'we' have seen a lot of this. It is a wide world. What colors have 'we' not seen in it?
It is a tragu when everyone around has been pressured to succumb against their wishes. Just as surrendering to officers of law, people have to surrender there too; that is a tragu.
Questioner: Meaning one puts the others in such a grip, correct?
Dadashri: Yes, they employ such a vice-grip.
Questioner: How should one act towards the one doing tragu?