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Questioner: Dada, is there causeless compassion (nishkaran karuna) in those (Gnani's, Tirthankara's) eyes?
Dadashri: Yes, just that! What else? This is nothing compassion without cause-ultimate compassion! Our vision is only on his Soul and not his non-Self complex pudgal. Nevertheless, 'we will preserve and promote a worldly relationship with him because he is beneficial to the satsang and therefore 'we' would say, 'welcome, please. If there are certain people who are beneficial for others, 'we' will make it a point to welcome them and encourage them. That worldly dealing has to be taken care of and nurtured and 'we' would do that. The tirthankara Lord however, would not do such things. They do not meddle whatsoever, do they? And this is nothing but meddling khatpat on ‘our' part.
Questioner: It is because the meddling portion of salvation has come to be yours, that we are able to come to you here.
Dadashri: Yes, that is it. That is why 'we' have halted “our' progress towards final liberation. May others attain the salvation that 'we' have and that is why 'we' meddle; 'we' meddle only for this reason. Everything 'we' do is simply so that people too may be blessed. People get to see vitaragata (the detached state in a live person) here.
Questioner: So far you mentioned obstinacy in your worldly interaction vyavahar, where you became upset and noncommunicative risavoo over getting less milk, but what kind of obstinacy is there on the path of moksha?
Dadashri: All this is nothing but obstinacy on the path to moksha and that is why the worldly life continues to perpetuate; that is why people cannot attain moksha. Otherwise, your liberation is at hand right here only! Obstinacy is the wall of obstruction to liberation. The obstinacy is still there; a bundle of sheer obstinacy, that is what he is! He will do only what he has willed.
That is called tragu - manipulative tantrum