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Dadashri: No, no, they do not go down. They become animals with four legs. As they try to become guruttam in the relative world, guruttam will enter into the picture again. Then do we not need a solution to get rid of that guruttam? So they go from two legs to four legs so that they do not fall! Otherwise, where will you get the donkeys from? Where will you get these cows and water buffalos? These poor people are nice enough they become cows and water buffalos and clear their karmic debts with each other.
It is all is because they became guruttam in the relative and deprived others of their possessions. Do people not do that?
There are two things people do in the relative, gurutta works in two ways. One as a super human being and the other as a beast. If a person conducts his life as a super human being , he does good deeds, he will get a life in the celestial form. Another consequence of gurutta is that he will go into the animal life form first and come back into the human life form after he gets rid (pays for) of all the entanglements he has created. I have personally witnessed this law of nature. People do not realize what justice is going to be served to them. They will go from a two-legged human to a fourlegged creature with a tail! However, we cannot say this to these people. At the moment they are living a carefree life. What do they say? 'We will worry about all that when we fall’. So let them display their superiority rof for now.
Laghuttam in the world leads to the ultimate guruttam, the Self
The whole world looks for guruttam in the relative. So to begin with there is a desire to be guru and then they show their superiority gurutta. Then he tries to be guruttam the highest of all, after becoming a superior. But no one has become guruttam this way. What does our Vignan say? It says, 'Laghuttam in the relative and guruttam in the real'. That is our main thing.
What does every religion claims? They say liberation is through their religion. Does anyone say that there is no liberation through their religion? Everyone will tell you, 'Our religion is the best.' Who is the only one who can say that his religion is the lowest? The one who has found the path of the vitarags can say, 'Our religion is lower, but yours is higher. Children always call the one who is low high. Those who are not mature will be