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Is Narshi Mehta saying anything wrong? Many people claim, 'I did this, I did swadhyaya - religious study, I did penance, I did chants etc. so what is the truth? 'I am the doer. I am the doer is ignorance. How can one attain anyfurther? And what is garva? Where one is not the doer and yet claims, 'I did, I dit it', that is garva. One is not doing anything, it happens. But what do people claim instead?
Questioner: 'I did it.'
Dadashri: That is called garva.
Questioner: Can it be said that one can have garva of Gnan?
Dadashri: We can accept garva of Gnan because it is something good. But this is garva of ignorance.
Questioner: Garva is also used in a positive way; for example one says, 'this is something worth taking garva for.'
Dadashri: There it is used in a positive way. But the main garva of the world is here (doership). They have taken it to denote something good.
Garva means to believe 'I am the doer', when infact one is not the doer. At that time, a ras sweet juice, arises within . This 'sweet juice' is garvaras. It tastes very sweet, and 'he' enjoys it, that, 'I did it'!
Questioner: And the circumstances around him are such that people give reinforce it by further accolades and respect, in the form garlands, complimentary letters etc, to the nimit the apparent doer, by saying, you are the one who did it, what a great job!'.
Dadashri: Yes they latch on to him by saying, 'You are the one who did it, you did it.'
Some people take garva for doing something good for others. They even take garva for doing something bad. A person will take garva for killing someone great and famous or a person will take garva saying, 'I have made quite a few millionaires. That is not pride within limits swamaan or pride with 'myness'.