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life that I felt that I was somebody. I knew that and consequently had ghemraji about it.
I have awareness of what the ego ahamkar should be, what abhimaan should be. Today you cannot find a person with ego ahamkar only; there is always some degree of perversion of the ego and for sure it has progressed to the stage of abhimaan.
A person with ego only is considered spontaneous and natural. It is with natural ego but such person is not to be found in this current time cycle. Where can one find such an 'ego only person? Today we have beings with pride with 'myness' abhimaani. What is ego? It is the belief, 'I am Chandulal', but that is a natural state and he is not at fault for having this belief. But what is abhimaan? When someone says, see this bungalow of mine, see this hospital of mine, see this factory of mine then realize what is talking; his abhimaan is talking.
Questioner: But you said that your abhimaan had increased, then how did it go down to zero?
Dadashri: All of a sudden! I did not do anything. 'This is but natural'; it occurred naturally. That is why I tell people they should not try to imitate this. What are you going to do when it is a natural phenomenon? Now come to me and I will show you the way. I have found a path. But if you try to follow the path that I took to get to this stage, you will die, because my abhimaan had gone from 25% to 150%, and I could not bear it. Only I know how I managed to pass those days!
Questioner: There is a saying, 'one had abhimaan worth a quarter of a pound. As he became learned it increased four times and when he became a guru, it increased forty times.' Now the only thing of importance is how one can come down to the level of zero.
Dadashri: Now after attaining Gnan, where is your independent spiritual endeavor purushartha day and night? This purushartha is taking all towards zero. What was the case before? It used to increase three fold, and it was headed in the direction of growth. Now You are headed towards its dissolution. So it is futile to look for solutions here. Everything here is very systematic. You are headed towards the 'zero state', and that state will come for sure.