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Dadashri: No, not for others, it does not affect other mahatmas. I am talking about those who have intense greed lalacha; if a person is avaricious, covetous, then Gnan has not really given results in him.
This entire Gnan of 'ours' will be present in a lalachoo person but it will be through the medium of the intellect. Therefore, it abandons him in the moment of need. It will not help him during the time of need, it will move aside. It will appear to look just like this Gnan; one cannot tell the difference. But in aperson with intense greed, the Gnan will slip way at the crucial moment, but not so for others.
Questioner: Does Gnan through the intellect mean he has understood this Gnan through the intellect?
Dadashri: For him, this knowledge has manifest through the intellect buddhignan. Because of the impurity of intense greed lalacha, Gnan will not arise. It is a big problem for the poor man. He repents a lot but what can he do? There is not a minute of bliss for him.
Questioner: What if he confesses and repents, does pratikraman, in front of the Gnani for all the mistakes he has made so far; and then again he follows, with firm determination nischaya what the Gnani shows him?
Dadashri: How can he do pratikraman when he cannot even see his mistakes ? He will be able to see his mistakes gradually as he progresses forward according to my instructions. Right now, he cannot even see the mistakes he has already made.
Therefore, when he starts to abide by 'our Agnas, and then as he takes care of those in his own and everyone around him, he will begin to see all his faults bhoolo. And when he reaches a certain stage of seeing his own faults, then even 'we' will pave the way ahead for him. But what happens is that ,when any intense greed lalacha arises, he gets sucked into it. So all his energies get used up in that. The energies that 'we' bestow upon him become exhausted in his intense greed lalacha. The liability of this falls on
our shoulder. After some positive result, when 'we' are convinced, then 'we' will place 'our' energies behind him otherwise those energies are used up in this lalacha and then they become a tonic for wrong use.