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Dadashri: Certain portion of Gnan has given results but the intense greed lalacha are still alive.
Questioner: So does that mean that Gnan has not produced the kind of results one needs and is that why this happens ?
Dadashri: No. The Gnan cannot give results because one is a lalachoo. Intense greed lalacha is at the core; there is a tuber of intense greed lalacha within! This intense greed lalacha will not allow the Gnan to give result. That is why the scriptures say a covetous person lalachoo gradually works his way down to hell. He will not leave anything alone.
Questioner: Is it possible to remain as the knower-seer gnatadrashta of intense greed lalacha after attaining Gnan?
Dadashri: No. When the time comes, the temptation arises and the intense greed lalacha will drag him there, and make him slip.. The place where he 'slips' is where he loses awareness. In all other matter he remains very aware, but during and in the situations which cause him to slip, he is not able to maintain his awareness.
Questioner: But Dada, he has attained the state of Shuddhatma. So does He-the Self, not keep ‘seeing that?
Dadashri: But he is not able to 'see' in situations where he slips. He sees everywhere else but not there. And he slips because of intense greed lalacha.
Questioner: Does he slip because he does not remain in the Gnani's Agnas?
Dadashri: It is because of intense greed lalacha that he cannot remain in the Gnani's Agnas. Because of the lalacha he becomes the self, becomes absorbed with the self (Chandulal). Therefore, he needs to make a great purushartha (effort) there.
Questioner: Will his intense greed lalacha go if he takes Gnan again?
Dadashri: No it will not. Is it going to go away just by sitting in the Gnan Vidhi? It will happen only when he makes an effort to abide by the