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Future 24 Tirthankara
(next chouvisi) Naam-gotra Bandh Analysis
By Darshan Bavisi
For further information, discussion, suggestions, corrections please contact Darshan Bavisi (Mumbai) at (E) darshanbavisi@gmail.com (M) +91-982-363-3776
Image sources (in order from left to right): http://www.jainheritagecentres.com, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tirthankara, http://108vs.org
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Contents Introduction.
Understanding time calculation.......
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Innumerable lives yet to live............
Currently where?.
How is it analyzed?
Analysis of 24 Tirthankaras' bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra......
Conclusion...........
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Disclaimers.....
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Introduction
Probably all Jain sects in the world believe that all next 24 Tirthankara Naam-gotra of Bharat Kshetra (where we live) has already been done by some 24 souls in their past lives and they are already either in devlok or narak. That means after coming out of devlok or narak they will immediately live the life of Tirthankara and that will be therefore their last life. In other words, it means they just have two lives to go before attaining moksha, i.e. the current life in devlok or narak, and then the last life of Tirthankara. We will see in this study if this understanding sounds entirely correct or partly questionable.
Understanding time calculation
The fourth era (choutho aaro) is of 'ek koda kodi saagaropam', meaning in today's calculations it is 1 crore multiplied by 1 crore saagaropam1 long, which means the total length of 4th Era is 100,000,000,000,000 (100 trillion) saagaropam long, whereas, the life in highest devlok is only 33 saagaropam. So how can the future 24th Tirthankara be in Sarwarthsiddha Vimaan Devlok now itself? If we divide 100 trillion saagaropam by 33 saagaropam, then 3 trillion souls will arrive, live and then leave, one after the other in sequential order, in the highest devlok, so naturally one single soul of next 24th Tirthankara can't be there right now itself.
Similarly, there's extremely long time remaining for the 23rd, 22nd, 21st, 20th, 19th, etc. next Tirthankaras. So based on that, the above understanding, which is generally believed until now that all 24 future Tirthankaras have already done the bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra cannot be correct for all 24 future Tirthankaras.
For quick understanding,
4th Era of Avsarpini Kaal is same as 3rd Era of Utsarpini Kaal (1 kodadodi saagaropam)
Similarly, 4th Era of Utsarpini Kaal is same as 3rd Era of Avsarpini Kaal (2 kodadodi saagaropam)
Timelines, age, etc. details of 24th Tirthankara of Avsarpini Kaal is same for 1st Tirthankara of Utsarpini Kaal.
Similarly, timelines, age, etc. details of 1st Tirthankara of Avsarpini Kaal is same for 24th Tirthankara of Utsarpini Kaal, due to reversal of Kaal Chakra. Same reversed sequence applies for all other Tirthankaras from 2 to 23. The 24th Tirthankara of the next third aaro of Utsarpini Kaal (same like fourth aaro of Avsarpini Kaal), will be 'in existence' when third aaro is coming closer to end and fourth aaro of Utsarpini Kaal will be starting soon (same like third aaro of Avsarpini Kaal, but in opposite time cycle).
Innumerable lives yet to live
The jiv (soul) of the next 24th Tirthankara (Shri Bhadrakirat Ji) need to actually live for innumerable more lives for another 100 trillion saagaropam (in next third era) minus 33 saagaropam (in highest devlok) minus 84 lac purva2 (age of last life) before taking his last birth as Tirthankara. As the time passes the knowledge keeps getting diluted, so probably same thing happened with this knowledge and we are living with misinterpreted / incorrect information. The 24th Tirthankara of next chouvisi, meaning, has not yet done the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra. Based on that, and as mentioned above, similar model will apply for many other Tirthankara jivs that will come before the last and 24th Tirthankara.
So essentially, many of the next chouvisi Tirthankara jivs will do the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra in their some future life.
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Currently where?
There's a column in the below table as 'Currently where?' This data is extracted from other Jain books, but with this analysis it means that either, 1. That Tirthankara's jiv is currently in the stated devlok or narak. This also means that Tirthankara's jiv may actually
come from different a devlok or narak to take birth finally as Tirthankara.
OR 2. Such Tirthankara's jiv may be anywhere else currently in any other form (devlok, manushya, tiryanch, or narak), but
will arrive from the below mentioned respective devlok or narak to take his last birth as the stated Tirthankara.
To sum both the above, those Tirthankaras who have already done the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra will be rightly in the stated devlok /narak currently, and those who have not yet done the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra,
1. may be in that devlok /narak currently and come from elsewhere before last birth, or, 2. are elsewhere currently and may come from the stated devlok /narak to their last birth.
So 'currently where actually interprets as either (1) actually currently in that devlok / narak, or (2) will come from that devlok /narak to take birth as Tirthankara.
How is it analyzed? Based on that, below is the analysis of all the next 24 Tirthankaras on who may have already done the bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra and who has not yet, i.e. who will do it in some of their respective future life. The analysis is done by calculating the maximum life of devlok and narak, and how much time after which each Tirthankara is born. If the 'Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara' column is more than minimum age devlok / narak or less than maximum age at devlok / narak column then only it can be valid, otherwise it is not possible to do Tirthankara Naam-gotra by that Jiv in his last previous life.
It shows what we all Jains believing until now may not be entirely correct (due to lost knowledge), but there's much more to that. This is only a small and humble attempt to bridge the lost gap and bring back the lost knowledge to complete the currently available incomplete knowledge. Even if it is not accurate, it will bring us closer to reality and true understanding.
The below table will show the complete analysis that will tell us,
1. Who have really already done the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra and who are yet to do in some next their lives? 2. Who really have their next life as last life as Tirthankara and are in devlok or narak as mentioned in Jain books? 3. Tirthankara no.12 (Shri Amam Ji (Vasudeva Krishna's Jiv)) may be possibly the last one who has done the bandh of
Tirthankara Naam-gotra already. There's minor time mismatch though unless he also has to live more lives before
doing bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra. 4. But from Tirthankara no.13 to 24, certainly there's huge time remaining (far more than max devlok age of 33
saagaropam) and so it can't be possible for any of those Jivs to already have done bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra. They must live a few, to innumerable more lives, before they can do bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra. Simplest example to accept this fact is from the Jiv of Lord Mahavir. He lived innumerable lives from the Jiv of Marichi onwards including 33 saagaropam in 7 Narak then again went to 4" Narak and also spent lives of Vasudeva, Chakravarti, etc., many lives, and all these in the same previous 4 Aaro of 100 Trillion Saagaropam.
Dilution of knowledge with passage of such a long time may have made us believe that all have already done the bandh of Tirthankara Naam-gotra, and so it is now extremely difficult to accept the fact if many of them have not done so yet.
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Analysis of 24 Tirthankaras' bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra
Tirthankara Name
Jiv of
Currently where?
Min-Max age at devlok / narak Min 10,000 yrs. Max 1 saagaropam
Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara
Valid or time mismatch
Tirthankara Naam-gotra already done or not yet?
Shri Mahapadma Ji
King Shrenik
14 narak
39,000 years
Valid
Yes, done.
2
Shri Surdev Ji
Suparshwa (Bhagwan Mahavir's kaka)
2nd devlok
Min little over 1 palyopam. Max little over 2 saagaropam
39, 250 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching. Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different liv.
Shri Suparshwa King Uday (Sonardo
of King Konik)
Min 2 saagaropam. Max 7 saagaropam
123,000 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different Jiv.
Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 2nd devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 3rd devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining.
Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 3d devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 2nd devlok.
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Shri
Pottila (Wife Swayamprabhu of Tetli
minister)
3rd devlok
Min 2 saagaropam. Max 7 saagaropam
623,000 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching. Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different liv.
Shri Sarvanubhuti Ji
Drudketu (Bhagwan Mallinath's kaka)
2nd devlok
Min little over 1 palyopam. Max little over 2 saagaropam
1,223,000 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different Jiv.
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Tirthankara Name
Jiv of
Currently where?
Min-Max age at devlok / narak
Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara
Valid or time mismatch
Tirthankara Naam-gotra already done or not yet?
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Shri Devgupt Ji
Kaartik (businessman)
Indra of 1st devlok
Min 1 palyopam. Max 2 saagaropam
6,623,000 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different liv.
7
Shri Udayaan Ji
Shank shravak (Father of King Pardesi)
12th devlok
Min 21 saagaropam. Max 22 saagaropam
10,006,623,000 years
Probably done, but devlok time not matching. Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different Jiv.
Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 14 devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 12th devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 1st devlok. Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. Time calcs. mismatching, less time remaining than min age of 5th devlok.
8
Shri Pedhal Ji
Anand shravak
14 devlok
Min 1 palyopam. Max 2 saagaropam
0.25 palyopam
Probably done, but devlok time not matching Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different Jiv.
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Shri Pottil Ji
Sudarshan (businessman)
5th devlok
Min 10 saagaropam.
" Max 10 saagaropam
0.5 palyopam
Probably done, but devlok time not matching. Unidentifiable mismatch. Or is some different liv.
Shri Shatkirti di (Shattak)
Shatak shravak
3rd narak
Min 3 saagaropam. Max 7 saagaropam
3 saagaropam
Valid
Yes, done.
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SN
Tirthankara Name
Jiv of
Currently where?
Min-Max age at devlok / narak
Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara
Valid or time mismatch
Tirthankara Naam-gotra already done or not yet?
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Shri Munisuvrat Ji
Devki (Mother of Shri Krishna (vasudeva))
8th devlok
Min 18 saagaropam.
" Max 18 saagaropam
4 saagaropam
Yes, done.
Invalid. Min age at devlok far more than time for birth remaining. She/he may be in 1st, 2nd, 3", or 4th devlok max. Mismatch. unless possible unidentifiable time calcs. error for 'Time remaining...' column. Time for birth more remaining.
12
Shri Amam Ji
Shri Krishna (vasudeva)
3rd narak
Min 3 saagaropam. Max 7 saagaropam
9 saagaropam
Probably done or may be some lives to live before Tirthankara naam-gotra bandh.
Shri
Harsaaki (Purohit of Raavan (prativasudev))
6th devlok
Max 14 saagaropam
30 saagaropam
Nishkashay Ji
Mismatch
Not done. A few more lives yet to live. Not done. A few more lives yet to live.
Shri Nishpulaak
14
King Balbhadra
6th devlok
Max 14 saagaropam
54 saagaropam
Mismatch
15
Shri Nirmam Ji
Sulsa shravika
5h devlok
Max 10 saagaropam
<10 million saagarapam (1 crore - 100 saagaropam55,39,000 yrs)
Mismatch
Not done. Many more lives yet to live.
Shri Chitragupt
Rohini (Mother of Baldev (baldev))
2nd devlok
Little over 2 saagaropam
90 million saagaropam (9 crore)
Mismatch
Max 22
17
Shri Samadhi Ji
Revati (gathapati)
12*" devlok
900 million saagaropam (90 crore)
Mismatch
saagaropam
Max 18
18
Shri Samvar Ji
Shatalikumar (Son of Rahnemi)
8th devlok
9 billion saagaropam (900 crore)
Mismatch
Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live.
saagaropam
Shri Yashodhar
Dipaayan Rishi Agnikumar dev
Far less
90 billion saagaropam (9,000 crore)
Mismatch
20
Shri Vijay Ji
Jaraakumar
12th devlok
Max 22 saagaropam
900 billion saagaropam (90,000 crore)
Mismatch
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Tirthankara Name
Jiv of
Currently where?
Min-Max age at devlok / narak
Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara
Valid or time mismatch
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Shri Vimal Ji (Mali)
Malla Naarad
5th devlok
Max 10 saagaropam
9 trillion saagaropam (900,000 crore)
Mismatch
Tirthankara Naam-gotra already done or not yet? Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live. Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live.
22
Shri Devchandra Ji
Ambad Taapas
5th devlok
Max 10 saagaropam
10 trillion saagaropam (10 lac crore)
Mismatch
Shri Anantvirya
Anjana Sati
9th devlok
Max 19 saagaropam
30 trillion saagaropam (30 lac crore)
Mismatch
Shri Bhadrakirat Ji
Swayambudha
Sarwarthsiddha Max 33 devlok
saagaropam
100 trillion saagaropam minus 33 saagaropam minus 84 lac purva
Mismatch
Not done. Innumerable more lives yet to live.
Saagaropam is defined in various Jain books so we won't elaborate here. ?Purva is defined in various Jain books so we won't elaborate here.
The 'Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara' column may not be 100% accurate, but as close as possible and is derived from other Jain texts.
Conclusion What it all means is that we only know which souls are going to become next Tirthankaras but that certainly does not mean they all have already done bandh of Tirthankara naam-gotra. We know the names of all and stories of previous life of some of those jivs who will be the future Tirthankaras of next (upcoming) Utsarpini Kaal of Bharat Kshetra. These names and stories are coming from the times of Lord Mahavir, and His disciples who later became Kevalis.
Disclaimers
1. Based on my Kshayopkshayam (limited knowledge that my soul has currently) I have analyzed and written
everything here, if there's any mistake then I humbly apologize all Tirthankaras, their current form soul wherever they are, Kevalis, and I apologize to the Chaturvigh-sangh (sadhu, sadhvi, shravak, shravika). Michhami Dukkadam. The objective of this analysis is only to possibly bridge the missing / forgotten gap of knowledge and understanding.
2. Source of information extracted and collated from various Jain books, e.g. the columns 'Tirthankara Name', Jiv of,
and Currently where?' are taken from the book 'Charittanuvali', column 'Min-Max age at devlok / narak' is taken from Jain Tatva Prakash'. Column 'Approx. time remaining for birth of this Tirthankara' is reverse calculated by me based on details in the book 'Charittanuvali'. Columns 'Valid or time mismatch' and 'Tirthankara Naam-gotra already done or not yet?' are done by me as the final analysis.
3. Profile brief: Author of this analysis document is Jain and working as a software consultant. Author has been keenly
studying Jainism since over 20 years. Author has read many books on Jainism, read a few Aagams, memorized the Pratikraman Sutra, been part of various religious and socio-religious activities, etc. When author discussed this topic
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________________ with 2-3 Jain sadhu-sadhivs about the 24th next Tirthankara (Shri Bhadrakirat Ji) and after they were being agreeing to this thought, author decided to write it in detail and also analyze the same for all the 24 next Tirthankaras. Image source: http://www.herenow4u.net/index.php?id=72795 Page 9 of 9